Teen Gothic

Something similar to Twin Tribes, but not mostly based on romantic love

Hello! I'm just now really getting into goth music and culture. I find a lot of bands lack the etheral and spooky sound that I think (?) is goth. But those same songs have lyrics that make me, a total expert /j, go "That seems goth". I'm not looking to call those songs goth, it just made me curious. Is goth music more honed in on the sound? Or are lyrics equally important? Can goth music be one or the other?

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I'm sorry if that is a silly question! If my question is confusing, or my post is in the wrong section I apologize!

Only just started to lean into goth music with Joy Division and The Cure cause I wanted to get to know the inspirations and fundaments first, but I’m really enjoying it so far, and absolutely love the lyrics on Unknown Pleasures which I know isn’t really Goth but thought it was still worth mentioning.

Most the music I listen to are Folk music like Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen, Nick Drake, Ani DiFranco and Jewel, all artists known as amazing songwriters, Cohen and Drake especially with some of their very dark lyrics. They all tap into really specific feelings, ideas and experiences in very powerful ways, and I want to see if I can find that in this genre. Any suggestions?

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Searched everywhere and can’t find lyrics for nearly the whole of the Tragedia Nosferata album so decided to start trying to transcribe it. Started with Taste of Night and fairly confident we got everything correct but wondering if anyone else has already done this? What are your thoughts does it sound correct or got any suggestions/corrections? https://youtu.be/oZUXKF-svAo?feature=shared

Check out our second single and let me know what you think !🖤

hi! english isn't my first language so sorry for any mistakes! I love this etereal wave band called stare, they only have one album (haunted) and i'm totally obssesed with it! I've been searching non stop for the albums lyrics, but sadly i only have Bell, book & candle 's lyrics. I think they are in the physical album but I can' t get it since I'm not from the us, does anyone know the lyrics/have the album and could please send me pics of them? thanks!

I'm quite in the mood for something with poetic lyrics; probably a softer sound? Any recommendations?

Background info: Originally recorded in 1987. Released as the second single from Floodland in 1988. First of all, a link to the video. Here's yet another opportunity to watch Patricia Morrison rocking her glam look. Lyrics – Extended Version.

You've heard this song five hundred times. You might have idly wondered what Andrew Eldritch is rambling about. So I did a little bit of sleuthing. Oh my, this song did not age well at all. Once again, Eldritch proves to be insufferable. From this article on Songfacts.com:

Written by Sisters of Mercy lead singer Andrew Eldritch, this apocalyptic track was inspired by Percy Bysshe Shelley's 1818 sonnet Ozymandias. Eldritch told MTV: "The song is about erecting monuments in outrageous places to one's own personal power and then crumbling away."

The 7-minute album version was remixed and released as "Dominion" in the UK.

The "Mother Russia" segment was influenced by the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, in which an explosion at the Ukrainian nuclear facility sent dangerous levels of radioactive particles into the atmosphere, endangering the [former] western USSR and Europe.

Eldritch told The Melody Maker in 1987: "I made the mistake of getting caught in central Europe when Chernobyl started sprinkling it's residue over the land. It's sort of a carry on (and 'Carry On') from 'Black Planet' – part of my hate/hate relationship with America. I just had this idea of all them huddled in their mobile homes while Mother Russia rained down on them. They deserve it. I suppose the song is really about the prostitution of Europe by the Americans." The music video depicts a tale of intrigue with Eldritch passing information to bass player Patricia Morrison. But what does it all mean? "It means absolutely nothing," director David Hogan laughed. "Just the impression of a story."

It was Eldritch's idea to shoot the clip in Petra, Jordan – not the safest idea considering Iran and Iraq were warring on the Gaza Strip. Hogan told Songfacts in a 2015 interview: "We were told by the State Department that they never recommend Americans going over there at the time because it's a war and because of all the stuff going on in Israel. So we said, 'Okay, well, tough titty, we're going.'" Luckily, the location manager was friends with the king's brother. "So they hooked us up with the king, and they said, Well, if they're coming, we're going to supply them with bodyguards. So I had an armed bodyguard with me with a machine gun at his side the entire time following me everywhere, even into the bathroom."

He added: "And the helicopter shot, we didn't have a helicopter budgeted, and I said, 'Man, it would be great to get a helicopter shot of this place.' And the location manager said, 'Well, I'll call the king's brother.' He called the king, and he sent a gigantic helicopter for us, just landed in the middle of Petra, and I thought oh, this is cool."

a couple months ago i was at the punk/goth bar i used to go often and i was having a convo with some people, and most of them didnt really care or paid attention to the lyrics of songs.
I kept asking online and around for that and lotta people were indifferent to it.
Am I weird for paying close attention to them? lyrics can make or break a song for me, can be a nice toon but shitty lyrics will ruin it, same with not so good songs musically but great and relatable lyrics will make me listen to them again.
I always liked poetry and literature so that might influence this situation a bit but not sure, i think lyricis is a very important part of a song but for some people vocals are just another random instrument.
I know this is a non issue but i tend to overthink stuff like this lmao
Am I the minority in this? I mean in paying a lot of attention to the lyrics?